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		<title>Zealots and Narcissism</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many times in my journeys of distribution hopping, I&#8217;ve run across rabid fans and communities [1]
I&#8217;ve written a guide for new users on how to understand the vitrol that rabid zealots spew in Linux communities [2]
Those problems are all very easy to see&#8230;but these articles deal with only the tangible problems in these areas.  What [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many times in my journeys of distribution hopping, I&#8217;ve run across rabid fans and communities <a title="Previous displays of rabies" href="http://linux-blog.org/animosity-unfounded/" target="_blank"><sup>[1]</sup></a></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve written a guide for new users on how to understand the vitrol that rabid zealots spew in Linux communities <a title="New User Guide to Communities" href="http://linux-blog.org/a-new-user-guide-to-linux-communities/" target="_blank"><sup>[2]</sup></a></p>
<p>Those problems are all very easy to see&#8230;but these articles deal with only the tangible problems in these areas.  What are the reasons these problems exist?  Is it because of one or two individuals?  Is it mob mentality?  Are people just waking up on the wrong side of the bed?  I don&#8217;t think these reasons get down to the core of what the real problem is&#8230;the hidden problem&#8230;of zealots in the Linux community.</p>
<h2>The Hidden Problem</h2>
<p>The hidden problem is Narcissism&#8230;people think that what they have to say about a given subject makes the most sense and is 100% correct (or at least more correct than others&#8217; POV) and it&#8217;s one that is hard for people to talk about&#8230;because anyone that writes or blogs has to be a little bit narcissistic.  People don&#8217;t like talking about problems they&#8217;re guilty of.  I know I am guilty of it&#8230;and I&#8217;m still going to talk about it.</p>
<p>With social networking riding a tidal wave right now, the era of the narcissist moves on, unhindered, on the interwebs.  Subscribe to my twitter feed&#8230;what I have to says in 140 characters or less is a MUST READ!  My facebook page will keep you updated on EVERY little thing I decide to post unless you edit me out of your news feed.  Sites cater to the egocentric tendencies of anyone plugged in.  So what happens when you get a bunch of narcissists together sharing a common goal?  &#8220;My distribution is THE BEST out there and no other point of view matters!&#8221;  That&#8217;s right, you get zealotry in the purest form.</p>
<p>This has slowly begun leaking into Linux communities during the past few years as Linux is tried out by more and more people and becomes more available to people who aren&#8217;t technologically advanced.  Bottom line is, more people are trying Linux now than ever before.  This makes the user pool larger and more diverse.  Where there are more people though, there are more narcissists&#8230;and birds of a feather flock together.</p>
<p>Take narcissism with a twist of mob mentality and the powder keg in Linux communities is set to blow.  The zealots seethe and team about in forums, IRC, and on blogs across the internet looking for a place to show how right they are and how wrong the person posting information is.</p>
<p>Oh, I admit it&#8230;I have a narcissist streak in me&#8230;I want people to read this blog.  I want people to follow me on twitter.  I want people to pay attention to what I say&#8230;it&#8217;s part of being a blogger&#8230;but I don&#8217;t think that my distribution of choice is any better than yours.  In fact, I know it&#8217;s not.  Just like my car isn&#8217;t any better than the one you drive and my clothes are so last year and aren&#8217;t as good as yours.  I offset my narcissism with realism&#8230;I understand that what I think isn&#8217;t the only point of view out there&#8230;I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m 100% right all the time.</p>
<p>I also don&#8217;t go out on the web and try to find others who think my view is the best view and then try to push my egocentric viewpoint to others.  I don&#8217;t create a community of zombie thinkers who all believe my viewpoint is the best out there.  I&#8217;m not forming any mobs for my mentality.  I&#8217;m not flocking together with birds of a feather.  I&#8217;m a part time ego-narcissist I guess.</p>
<p>The first step is admitting that you have a problem.  The second step is having some good old fashioned manners, respect for others, and above all&#8230;tolerance and realism.</p>
<h2>Solution to the Problem</h2>
<p>When you&#8217;re standing in line at a bank, would you cut in front of someone in the line?   Most likely you wouldn&#8217;t.  Personal conflict is something we as humans avoid most of the time.  So, why is it when you&#8217;re driving you don&#8217;t mind cutting someone off and do it regularly?  It&#8217;s because the personal aspect of that motion has been replaced into an impersonal one&#8230;the car becomes a protection from that personal conflict that would happen if you had done the same thing in a bank line.</p>
<p>To fix the problem this presents on the web and in Linux communities, think about others (not yourself) and in doing so, become less narcissistic.  Apply this thinking to commenting and blogging and facebooking and tweeting.  Imagine that you are face to face with people saying the things you&#8217;re typing.  If you wouldn&#8217;t say things like that in a face to face situation, don&#8217;t say them.  Remember that tolerance of other viewpoints makes you a better person&#8230;AND smarter.  How?  Albert Einstein is largely considered one of the smartest humans to ever walk the earth.  He often gathered with other intelligent people to debate and discuss various topics that interested him.  <a title="Bohr-Einstein Debates" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohr-Einstein_debates">In doing so, he caused those he debated with</a> &#8220;to sharpen and refine their understanding of the philosophical and scientific implications of their own theory.&#8221;  Remember that everyone does NOT have to share your viewpoint&#8230;what works for you may not work for them.</p>
<p>Lastly, no one cares if you sat down in your office or are eating a peanut butter sandwich.  We subscribe to feeds and twitter accounts for meat and potatoes posts&#8230;not 1 liners that tell us you&#8217;re in the bathroom of a bakery on 96th street.  So, you zealots out there&#8230;you know who you are&#8230;take this opportunity to reflect on yourself (your favorite subject) and try to replace your narcissism with realism, tolerance, and good old fashioned manners.</p>
<p>And no I don&#8217;t think any zealots will be converted by this post&#8230;it&#8217;s more of a rant than anything else&#8230;and rants are one of the reasons why I have a blog <img src='http://linux-blog.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Well that and because what I say is more important than anyone else and my viewpoint is 100% correct 100% of the time of course. <img src='http://linux-blog.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://linux-blog.org/zealots-and-narcissism/" rel="bookmark">Zealots and Narcissism</a> originally appeared on <a href="http://linux-blog.org">Yet Another Linux Blog</a> on December 21, 2009.</p>


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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Most, if not all, top distributions of Linux ship a live CD that allows an end user to preview the operating system without installing it.
Foresight Linux is the exception.
Now, this isn&#8217;t because they don&#8217;t WANT to have a Live CD&#8230;they do.  The problem is that rPath, the creators of rBuilder Online, have discontinued the Live CD [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most, if not all, top distributions of Linux ship a live CD that allows an end user to preview the operating system without installing it.</p>
<p><a title="Foresight Linux Home" href="http://foresightlinux.org" target="_blank">Foresight Linux</a> is the exception.</p>
<p>Now, this isn&#8217;t because they don&#8217;t WANT to have a Live CD&#8230;they do.  The problem is that rPath, the creators of rBuilder Online, have discontinued the Live CD image creation type.</p>
<p>There was no announcement&#8230;no news posting&#8230;no clue dart thrown toward Foresight for this discontinuation.  There was only a <a title="rPath Formally Discontinues Live CD" href="https://issues.rpath.com/browse/RBL-4259?focusedCommentId=107403#action_107403" target="_blank">comment on a single bug in the rPath issue tracker just this past May</a>&#8230;Formally discontinued&#8230;which in my opinion, is a HUGE mistake as far as community goes.  Why? Because a community is a solid base on which to stand for any distribution or toolset for open source.  rPath has essentially dismissed a feature that the community would find valuable and in the process alienated anyone who finds this feature valuable or desirable.  But I&#8217;m not here to talk about whether or not people want to develop their own distributions on rBuilder Online using rPath tools nor the incentive to do so&#8230;I&#8217;m talking about Foresight. </p>
<p>So, what incentive does rPath have to help Foresight by fixing it?  Not much&#8230;I&#8217;m sure there will be those that argue: &#8220;rPath has customers and their first allegiance needs to be to them&#8221; and those people would be right.  But can&#8217;t the Foresight community pick up the torch for Live CD building  on rBO and develop it as a community effort?  Can&#8217;t a license be found that it can be released under that would prevent forking?  Can&#8217;t it be modularized as a &#8216;plug-in&#8217;? I don&#8217;t pretend to know the answer to those questions&#8230;I just think that Foresight will continue to suffer as they have been for many, many months now with respect to not having a Live CD.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure that there will also be those out there saying &#8220;but Foresight has a bunch of Virtualized Images to choose from!! No one really cares about a Live CD!!&#8221; and I&#8217;d say you&#8217;re halfway correct.  <em>Developers</em> don&#8217;t really care about a Live CD&#8230;but those that Foresight attempted to attract&#8230;<em>the end user</em>&#8230;they <span style="text-decoration: underline;">DO</span> care about having something they can &#8216;try before they buy&#8217;.  It is my belief that Foresight would be a crap-ton more popular if they had a Live CD.</p>
<h2>So What Solutions Are There?</h2>
<p>I don&#8217;t think rPath will suddenly fix the broken Live CD creation in rBO.  I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;ll release the code anytime soon (though this is more likely than a fix).  So in the meantime, what if Foresight helped out with <a title="LiveCD, now developed by team Unity Linux" href="http://unity-linux.org/livecd-now-developed-by-team-unity-linux/" target="_blank">LiveCD project that recently was taken over by Unity Linux</a>?  Both <a title="Unity Linux Home" href="http://unity-linux.org" target="_blank">Unity</a> and Foresight are Red Hat like distributions and use similar file structures and OS organization.  I think that if Foresight were able to integrate LiveCD onto the distribution, a huge niche would be filled.</p>
<h2>Where to Start?</h2>
<p>Being involved both with Foresight Linux and Unity Linux gives me a unique perspective on what areas of collaboration could be developed.  One thing is for sure&#8230;having both distro development teams onboard would be a huge boon to LiveCD development&#8230;and Foresight could suck in SRPMs quite easily from Unity to hit the ground running right away.</p>
<p>I am by no means offering to be the head of this project because I can&#8217;t even begin to know where it would start or finish.  I&#8217;m just offering a workaround to a problem I&#8217;ve seen Foresight have for longer than it should have.  I know the Unity Linux guys would welcome anyone wanting to get involved with helping LiveCD development.  Would Foresight be open to this?  I can&#8217;t answer.  I hope so&#8230;Foresight needs a Live CD if it hopes to attract more people to it&#8230;and that&#8217;s something I&#8217;m keen on seeing.  Is this something you&#8217;d like to see as well?</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gettinther announced that build 3.7&#8230;a developer environment snapshot intended as proof of concept&#8230;has been released.  This is an unofficial release&#8230;It&#8217;s stable&#8230;but we consider it not even an alpha quality release&#8230;mainly because it is being used as a proof of concept to show the new technologies we&#8217;ve integrated.  Gettinther wanted to have a bit larger test [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gettinther announced that build 3.7&#8230;a developer environment snapshot intended as proof of concept&#8230;has been released.  This is an unofficial release&#8230;It&#8217;s stable&#8230;but we consider it not even an alpha quality release&#8230;mainly because it is being used as a proof of concept to show the new technologies we&#8217;ve integrated.  Gettinther wanted to have a bit larger test base for this release so he announced this in the forum only&#8230;but I figured that it would be nice to flash it to our <a href="http://planet.unity-linux.org">Planet Unity</a> readers.</p>
<p>The full announcement is in the forum here:  <a href="http://forum.unity-linux.org/general-news-and-announcements/release-3-7-out">http://forum.unity-linux.org/general-news-and-announcements/release-3-7-out</a></p>
<p>Gettinther advises, &#8220;It&#8217;s still rough around the corners so please excuse us for it.  Also the shut down script in livecd mode generates errors.  Those are not important and can be safely ignored.&#8221;</p>
<p>Please note that we have updated <a href="http://rpm5.org/">rpm to version 5</a>, the package manager is now the <a href="http://labix.org/smart">Smart Package Manager</a> as <a href="http://apt4rpm.sourceforge.net/">apt4rpm development has ceased</a>, the <a href="http://livecd.berlios.de/">livecd project has been updated</a> quite a bit to conform to our updated toolchain as well, and detection has been pretty much rewritten to accommodate all the upgrades.</p>
<h3>Also, remember that this is not a desktop&#8230;this is a core.  Unity Linux strives to be a base for people to build from.</h3>
<p>You may notice that TinyME influences are very pronounced in this release&#8230;this is because TinyME allows us to have a GUI with some of the least amount of requirements and dependencies.  Developers needed a minimalistic GUI to test core components such as Smart and the updated Unity Control Center.  Unity Linux core, on which derivative distributions (branches) will build, will be even smaller than the size of this ISO&#8230;as it will not have Xorg or a window environment.</p>
<p>Please report issues to the forum: <a href="http://forum.unity-linux.org/unity-linux-discussion/"> http://forum.unity-linux.org/unity-linux-discussion/</a></p>
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		<title>The New Planet Unity</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some of you may have noticed that Planet Unity got a face lift recently.  I took a page from Linux Mint and their planet page and grabbed Gregarius which is a feed reader that aggregates your feeds into a central feed and has some really nice display options including tags for individual feeds.
This gives [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of you may have noticed that <a href="http://planet.unity-linux.org">Planet Unity</a> got a face lift recently.  I took a page from Linux Mint and their <a href="http://www.linuxmint.com/planet/">planet page</a> and grabbed <a href="http://gregarius.net/">Gregarius</a> which is a feed reader that aggregates your feeds into a central feed and has some really nice display options including tags for individual feeds.</p>
<div id="attachment_998" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 296px"><img class="size-medium wp-image-998" title="searchpage" src="http://linux-blog.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/searchpage-286x300.png" alt="advanced search" width="286" height="300" /><p class="wp-caption-text">advanced search</p></div>
<p>This gives us a great opportunity to organize our developer blog feeds and developer resources for the end readers to drill down to the information that is important TO YOU.  You&#8217;ll be able to search through feeds using the search function on planet or click on tags to display similar content.</p>
<p>So not only is this a new look, it&#8217;s a whole new set of features and functions:</p>
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<li> Supports RDF, RSS, ATOM feeds</li>
<li> <a title="OPML" href="http://wiki.gregarius.net/index.php/OPML#OPML_Import">Imports</a> and <a title="OPML" href="http://wiki.gregarius.net/index.php/OPML#OPML_Export">exports</a> OPML</li>
<li> <a title="AJAX" href="http://wiki.gregarius.net/index.php/AJAX">AJAX</a> powered <a title="Tags" href="http://wiki.gregarius.net/index.php/Tags">tagging</a> of feeds and items</li>
<li> Supports <a title="Themes" href="http://wiki.gregarius.net/index.php/Themes">themes</a> and <a title="Plugins" href="http://wiki.gregarius.net/index.php/Plugins">plugins</a></li>
<li> <a title="Search" href="http://wiki.gregarius.net/index.php/Search">Search</a> in your feeds</li>
<li> Basic <a title="Internationalization" href="http://wiki.gregarius.net/index.php/Internationalization">i18n</a> support</li>
<li> Committed to web standards: renders XHTML/CSS</li>
<li> Gregarius is FREE software and is released under the GPL</li>
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<p>Now not all of these features and functions matter to end users, but they do give Unity Linux developers an opportunity to provide you with a good planet experience&#8230;that is, getting the most information in the least amount of time with the least effort!</p>
<p>Look for more great improvements soon!  We&#8217;re working furiously all the time to make this the best Linux core out there!</p>
<p><a href="http://linux-blog.org/the-new-planet-unity/" rel="bookmark">The New Planet Unity</a> originally appeared on <a href="http://linux-blog.org">Yet Another Linux Blog</a> on April 28, 2009.</p>


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		<description><![CDATA[What usability reasons do you have for using Gnome vs. KDE? I'm looking for usability issues here and not specific bugs that cause you to drop one on its head.  Bugs can be fixed.  I'm talking about hard features that lack from one environment to the other.  What makes you use it in Ubuntu versus KDE?  Remember, not bugs...features!


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://linux-blog.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/kdesmall.png"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-817" title="The K Desktop" src="http://linux-blog.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/kdesmall.png" alt="" width="50" height="50" /></a>I prefer using KDE or Openbox as my main desktop when using Linux.  I&#8217;ve used Gnome quite a bit too when working for rPath last year (Foresight is THE Gnome distro).  Still, I prefer KDE&#8230;I really like the direction that 4.x is going also.  Sure, they&#8217;re not there yet, but I trust they will be because I haven&#8217;t been let down in the past <img src='http://linux-blog.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I have a little faith (Plus I&#8217;ve run snapshots of 4.2).<a href="http://linux-blog.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/gnomesmall.png"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-816" title="Gnome" src="http://linux-blog.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/gnomesmall.png" alt="" width="50" height="50" /></a></p>
<p>The thing that boggles my mind is that everyone says Gnome is better for a Windows convert taking his/her Linux steps for the first time.  I have to disagree based on the experience I&#8217;ve had with conversions of new users from Windows.  I think KDE gives the best experience for a new Windows user&#8230;it&#8217;s familiar or at least feels familiar&#8230;things are in similar places to Windows.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say that 80-90% of the users I convert across to using Linux prefer KDE to Gnome.  I always wonder why people think Gnome is so new user friendly.  Since I&#8217;ve always wondered, perhaps some Gnome users can tell me, what <strong>usability </strong>reasons do you have for using Gnome vs. KDE?  I&#8217;ve often heard that Gnome has integration and simplicity as the main reason&#8230;but could I not argue the same for KDE?  I&#8217;m looking for usability issues here and not specific bugs that cause you to drop one on its head.  Bugs can be fixed.  I&#8217;m talking about hard features that lack from one environment to the other.  What makes you use it in Ubuntu versus KDE?  Remember, not bugs&#8230;features!  Please let me know which desktop you prefer below and don&#8217;t forget to let me know the reason in the comments section below.</p>
Note: There is a poll embedded within this post, please visit the site to participate in this post's poll.
<p><a href="http://linux-blog.org/is-usability-really-simplicity/" rel="bookmark">Is Usability Really Simplicity?</a> originally appeared on <a href="http://linux-blog.org">Yet Another Linux Blog</a> on December 10, 2008.</p>


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		<description><![CDATA[Demasiado Personal writes
&#8220;There&#8217;s a game studio made by only two people, that released an excellent game for Windows, called World of Goo. I recently saw that the piracy on this game is over 95%, and it&#8217;s only a 20 dollars game.&#8221;
The blog brings up another valid point
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://gedece.blogspot.com">Demasiado Personal</a> writes</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8220;There&#8217;s a game studio made by only two people, that released an excellent game for Windows, called <a href="http://2dboy.com/games.php">World of Goo</a>. I recently saw that the piracy on this game is over 95%, and it&#8217;s only a 20 dollars game.&#8221;</p>
<p>The blog brings up another valid point</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8220;Now, the fun begins. Some of you will ask, what does this have to do with Linux anyway? Easy to answer. Lately this programmers are working in a Linux native port, and that gives us an amazing opportunity.  Imagine for a moment what would happen if Linux users bought more original copies than Windows users. I can answer what could happen. Those innovative programmers will make next game for Linux, and not Windows.&#8221;</p>
<p>So if you can afford 20 Dollars for an Award Winning game that will provide hours of entertainment, let your MONEY do the talking for you <img src='http://linux-blog.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Afterall, these guys won awards with a fantastic game and are taking the time to port it to Linux&#8230;I think of it as a donation&#8230;and if Linux sells more than Windows, it may show validity for Linux as a platform!  The Linux version is currently in Beta, but your 20 dollars will get you access to the Beta AND the release when it is made ready.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[3 months ago, CodeWeavers CEO Jeremy White issued a &#8220;Lame Duck&#8221; challenge for the President.  If any of those goals were met, he&#8217;d offer CrossOver free for one day.  Fast forward 3 months and at least one of his six lame duck goals were met.  Thus, CrossOver is available today only for FREE.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3 months ago, CodeWeavers CEO Jeremy White issued a &#8220;Lame Duck&#8221; challenge for the President.  If any of those goals were met, he&#8217;d offer CrossOver free for one day.  Fast forward 3 months and at least one of his six lame duck goals were met.  Thus, CrossOver is available today only for FREE.</p>
<p>To get in on the action, head over to the <a href="http://lameduck.codeweavers.com/">CodeWeavers CrossOver Lame Duck Page</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://linux-blog.org/codeweavers-offers-free-crossover-1-day-only/" rel="bookmark">CodeWeavers Offers Free CrossOver &#8211; 1 Day Only</a> originally appeared on <a href="http://linux-blog.org">Yet Another Linux Blog</a> on October 28, 2008.</p>


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Ubuntu is the only Linux distro I know of that has its alpha
releases slashdotted and dugg&#8230;which is a real shame; I think there
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Different Linux distros and desktop camps should recognize their differences as providing choice instead of being something that makes them different.
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<li>Ubuntu is the only Linux distro I know of that has its alpha<br />
releases slashdotted and dugg&#8230;which is a real shame; I think there<br />
are more that deserve this treatment from linux media sites.</li>
<li>Different Linux distros and desktop camps should recognize their differences <span style="text-decoration: underline;">as providing choice instead of being something that makes them different</span>.<br />
They all have the same goals&#8230;to get people using open source software<br />
and to provide a great experience for the user.  Differences are always<br />
looked down upon.  Choice is usually a positive thing.  We should be<br />
positive.</li>
<li>When designing a new car, automobile manufacturers don&#8217;t<br />
build it first and then draft it out on paper.  Likewise, Linux architects should not write the code first before creating a draft or set of goals<br />
(whether it be a paper draft, documentation, or QA test cases) that visualize where you want to go.  A visual goal is better than written or said one.</li>
<li>For<br />
every Penguin Pete, there is a Ken Starks.  There are times when one<br />
outweighs the other.  The nice part is that in the Linux community, the<br />
Ken Starks have a longer lasting impact and touch more lives.</li>
<li>The Linux Desktop will never be &#8220;finished&#8221; and for that I am VERY glad.</li>
<li>Programmers should be more like the code they write&#8230;without bias, structured, and incapable of &#8220;talking down&#8221;.</li>
<li>Every distro ships with at least one thing broken.</li>
<li>Every distro ships with at least two things broken.</li>
<li>Every distro ships with things broken.</li>
<li>If Linux were a dog, it would NOT be purebred.</li>
<li>People<br />
can get excited about Linux because they can take part in it. People<br />
can&#8217;t get excited about Microsoft because they can&#8217;t take part in it.  It&#8217;s the difference between playing in the game and being on the sideline wishing you were in the game.</li>
<li>Categorizing something divides; why are we categorizing Linux and developers?</li>
<li>Linux fits well into big business, but big business does not fit well into Linux</li>
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<p>By no means are these meant to point fingers&#8230;they are just observations.  Do you share some?  Do you have more to provide?  Please, let me know what you&#8217;ve seen in or out of your Linux community.</p>
<p><a href="http://linux-blog.org/some-random-linux-observations/" rel="bookmark">Some Random Linux Observations</a> originally appeared on <a href="http://linux-blog.org">Yet Another Linux Blog</a> on August 6, 2008.</p>


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you a new Linux user?  Fantastic!  Welcome to the world of freedom.  Freedom of choice, freedom of expression, freedom from vendor lockin.  You&#8217;ve made an excellent choice.  Now that you&#8217;ve chosen, installed, and are using Linux there are a few things you should keep in mind as you learn the ropes of your new system.</p>
<p><strong>1. Not all Communities are the Same</strong></p>
<p>Each Linux distribution has its own distinct community with their own ideas.  Think of owning a vehicle or a certain brand of appliance&#8230;along with the ownership of this comes the lifestyle that is reflected by users/owners of the product.  The same is true with Linux.  Each community will have a different idea on what is important. What is important to you may not be even on the radar of those users and developers of that community.  Find one that suits you.</p>
<p>Keeping this in mind, be patient.  <a href="http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html" target="_blank">Ask questions the smart way</a>.  Be <a href="http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#explicit" target="_blank">explicit and tactful</a>.  Be <a href="http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#beprecise" target="_blank">precise and direct</a>.  Provide more information than you think is necessary&#8230;no one will become upset if you provide too much information but they may not answer your question if you have too little.</p>
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<p><strong>2. Many Linux &#8220;Guru&#8217;s&#8221; are actually master Google searchers</strong></p>
<p>That&#8217;s right!  Many of the guru&#8217;s in Linux are actually average Linux users savvy at <a href="http://www.google.com/help/basics.html">searching</a> Google or another search engine.  You can be too&#8230;use <a href="http://google.com/linux" target="_blank">http://google.com/linux</a> for searching Linux only content and use the <a href="http://www.google.com/help/refinesearch.html">advanced search</a> help to get an idea how you can pinpoint exactly what you&#8217;re looking for. Pay specific attention to the search operators linked on that advanced page.</p>
<p>When someone does help you, ask them exactly what they searched for and how they searched for it to find a solution. Learn from these users. Often, they may have searched for a specific word order or searched within results from a query. Not asking the user who helped you find this will only inhibit your ability to find answers in the future. When asking, please remember the proper way to ask a question <img src='http://linux-blog.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><strong>3. Just Like members of Social Networks (MySpace, Facebook, etc), Linux Community Members Can be Rude</strong></p>
<p>Linux communities are sometimes politically charged. They&#8217;re also socially interactive. Communities often ascribe to different philosophies and standards. The best way to navigate through becoming part of a community or finding one that fits you is to respect others. You may not get that same respect in return because there are always those few that choose to be intolerant of opinions other than their own. Be cognizant of this fact. Understand that by not reciprocating the bad behavior you may find, you&#8217;re actually improving the community you are participating in <img src='http://linux-blog.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>When someone answers a question for you or helps you out&#8230;don&#8217;t forget to thank and all those who helped you. A small thank you often help those few attitudes to adjust.</p>
<p><strong>4.  The Software is Free and In Many Cases&#8230;So Is The Support</strong></p>
<p>Many Linux distributions are free. You can download them, install them, use them how you see fit. The support is community based and is often times free as well. The support is done by volunteers from around the globe.</p>
<p>Keeping this in mind, do not assume to know that the person you are speaking to inside a forum or Instant Messenger or IRC is English speaking. Don&#8217;t assume they are male. Don&#8217;t assume that they have nothing better to do than to help you. Don&#8217;t assume that helping you is #1 priority for them. Assumptions will only inhibit the ability to learn and improve. Assume nothing about the other person; remember to ask questions the smart way and keep a tactful approach. With free support, the the person helping does not OWE you that support&#8230;they GIVE YOU that support for free. Do not become upset with someone who is giving you a gift&#8230;even if they give you the that gift with a crufty comment.</p>
<p><strong>5.  Linux can be a Cult of Personality</strong></p>
<p>Once you use Linux for a while and see the choice/freedom, you begin to get used to it. You start to live in a blissful state where you feel sorry for those that do not have choice. Users in those communities then begin to ignore small problems they may find with distro X.</p>
<p>Communities are often standoffish to this real criticism, even when it might help them. Be patient and continue to voice this criticism in a tactful way. File bug reports and follow them. Don&#8217;t blame people for the failures you see directly in a community&#8230;remember, there is no centralized support heirarchy and it&#8217;s FREE! It&#8217;s a gift! Why get angry when someone gives you a gift?</p>
<p>There are many distributions out there to choose from and in each distribution, a set of users that identify with the advantages/features of that distribution. Find the community that fits you. If one community is not a fit for you doesn&#8217;t mean there will not be one that does fit.</p>
<p>Part of the foundation of the General Public License under which Linux is distributed is the concept of sharing. One gains and all others gain as well. It&#8217;s what makes Linux strong and technologically superior in many aspects to other software. Think of this concept and try to live above this &#8220;cult of personality&#8221; where everything inside the community revolves around that individual distribution&#8230;Don&#8217;t slam honest criticism that could help make your community or distro better. Through sharing opinions, code, and help&#8230;you participate in your community. Get involved! <img src='http://linux-blog.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><strong>6.  Remove the Veil of Anonymity</strong></p>
<p>I always use the comparison of driving a car to explain this. If you&#8217;re driving a vehicle and cut someone off or are cut off by someone, it&#8217;s normal. People do this all the time while driving. Now picture yourself in the line at the bank. If someone comes in after you, do they cut you off in line? No, that wouldn&#8217;t work. The reason that this doesn&#8217;t work is because there is a veil of anonymity with vehicles&#8230;the person driving doesn&#8217;t have to interact with you on a personal level.</p>
<p>Sometimes, Linux communities can be this way. People will not think that choices or words they make or say will have a large impact on others. While this is faulty thinking, it is the nature of the internet. The internet is the main vehicle that powers Linux distribution and development.</p>
<p>Keeping this in mind, remember that your actions have an impact on others within your community. Sure, others will cut you off from time to time with rudeness (see #3) but you can improve the quality of your community by making certain you do not do the same.</p>
<p><strong>Closing Thoughts</strong></p>
<p align="left">Many journalist and technical pundits will have you believe that Linux communities are chock full of nothing but unruly kids that contribute crappy code to a hacked project. This simply isn&#8217;t true. Large companies dedicate engineers to Linux development because their business is Linux. When you get started with Linux don&#8217;t buy into the hype that these people spout. Find out for yourself by joining a community. Ease your learning by asking questions the right way and have patience. Eventually, you&#8217;ll find a community you can be a part of and contribute to.</p>
<p align="left">It took me 4 community switches before I felt like I actually belonged to a community. Through it all, I kept tolerance for opposing opinions and a special region of my heart for helping users with even less experience than myself. In doing so, I was able to attract like users into the community I participate it. Can one person change their Linux community? I believe they can and do regularly. As a new user, see what you can do to change your new community for the better.</p>
<p><a href="http://linux-blog.org/a-new-user-guide-to-linux-communities/" rel="bookmark">A New User Guide to Linux Communities</a> originally appeared on <a href="http://linux-blog.org">Yet Another Linux Blog</a> on February 6, 2008.</p>


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		<description><![CDATA[Here at rPath we use our own Mediawiki appliance for documentation (what is a software appliance?).  While this is an excellent way of getting things documented quickly (as wiki&#8217;s are) it is NOT a great place for community based questions to influx nor a good place for knowledgebase questions to be stored.  Often, [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here at <a href="http://www.rpath.com/corp/" target="_blank">rPath</a> we <a href="http://wiki.rpath.com/wiki/Main_Page">use</a> our own <a href="http://www.rpath.org/rbuilder/project/vehera-base/" target="_blank">Mediawiki appliance</a> for documentation (<a href="http://www.rpath.com/corp/resources/What-is-a-Software-Appliance-Registration.html" target="_blank">what is a software appliance?</a>).  While this is an excellent way of getting things documented quickly (as wiki&#8217;s are) it is NOT a great place for community based questions to influx nor a good place for knowledgebase questions to be stored.  Often, the discussion tab on wiki&#8217;s go ignored with issue tracking systems replacing problems users have.</p>
<p>The problem with issue tracking systems is they have workflows of their own and often are impartial where they don&#8217;t need to be <img src='http://linux-blog.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> .  Wouldn&#8217;t it be nice if there was a place where like users of software could come together to ask questions and help each other reach conclusive answers?  Hence, the <a href="http://forum.rpath.com/">rPath Forum</a> was born.</p>
<p><a href="http://stefw.livejournal.com/" target="_blank">Stef</a> created the <a href="http://www.rpath.org/rbuilder/project/smf/" target="_blank">Simple Machines Forum Appliance</a>, which you can install and run in various formats such as VMWare, Xen, ISO, RAW, and even a LiveCD (in x86 and x86_64 bit flavors!).  What a wonderful concept&#8230;to be able to quickly download and deploy a forum using nothing but a virtualized environment <img src='http://linux-blog.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As some of you know, I&#8217;ve chose Simple Machines in the past at <a href="http://www.mypclinuxos.com/forum/index.php?action=forum" target="_blank">MyPCLinuxOS</a> and <a href="http://www.pclinuxos.com/index.php?option=com_smf&amp;Itemid=58" target="_blank">PCLinuxOS</a> proper to power those communities.  Stef and I are excited to power the rPath community with this same wonderful software.</p>
<p>If you are a packager, appliance developer, Foresight Linux user, or are just interested in our products and technologies such as <a href="http://wiki.rpath.com/wiki/Conary" target="_blank">Conary</a> and <a href="http://wiki.rpath.com/wiki/rMake">rMake</a>&#8230;<a href="http://forum.rpath.com/index.php" target="_blank">come on over to the rPath Forum</a> and <a href="http://forum.rpath.com/index.php?action=register">register</a>.  Drop us a line and say hello <img src='http://linux-blog.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://linux-blog.org/the-rpath-forum-goes-live/" rel="bookmark">The rPath Forum goes Live!</a> originally appeared on <a href="http://linux-blog.org">Yet Another Linux Blog</a> on February 1, 2008.</p>


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